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	<title>Comments on: The Rich Web Experience - day 1</title>
	<link>http://blog.outerthoughts.com/2007/09/the-rich-web-experience-day-1/</link>
	<description>&#62; From inner thoughts to the outer limits of Alexandre Rafalovitch</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gustafson</title>
		<link>http://blog.outerthoughts.com/2007/09/the-rich-web-experience-day-1/#comment-12407</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gustafson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.outerthoughts.com/2007/09/the-rich-web-experience-day-1/#comment-12407</guid>
		<description>I'm glad you enjoyed the BOF session. I think the issues you are dealing with internally are quite interesting and are a good learning case for other developers, so I don't think they minded. Plus, I think they liked laughing about your required support for Netscape 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed the BOF session. I think the issues you are dealing with internally are quite interesting and are a good learning case for other developers, so I don&#8217;t think they minded. Plus, I think they liked laughing about your required support for Netscape 4.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre Rafalovitch</title>
		<link>http://blog.outerthoughts.com/2007/09/the-rich-web-experience-day-1/#comment-12385</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandre Rafalovitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.outerthoughts.com/2007/09/the-rich-web-experience-day-1/#comment-12385</guid>
		<description>Greg,

Glad to see you are tracking the feedback (Yahoo Pipes?). However, we may have to agree to disagree here.

I am a server-side developer trying to wear multiple hats. I should have been exact target audience. This is why I was at the talk. I don't know where our disconnect is.

As to best practices, I spoke about my feelings on jMaki at the time of presentation. I am glad to hear those specific issues have already been  resolved, but I don't know what other similarly important issues may not have been. 

I will have a look at jMaki again later, but will probably wait a while while the dust settles. For now, I have a feeling I will be looking at Dojo 0.9 directly quite a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>Glad to see you are tracking the feedback (Yahoo Pipes?). However, we may have to agree to disagree here.</p>
<p>I am a server-side developer trying to wear multiple hats. I should have been exact target audience. This is why I was at the talk. I don&#8217;t know where our disconnect is.</p>
<p>As to best practices, I spoke about my feelings on jMaki at the time of presentation. I am glad to hear those specific issues have already been  resolved, but I don&#8217;t know what other similarly important issues may not have been. </p>
<p>I will have a look at jMaki again later, but will probably wait a while while the dust settles. For now, I have a feeling I will be looking at Dojo 0.9 directly quite a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://blog.outerthoughts.com/2007/09/the-rich-web-experience-day-1/#comment-12374</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.outerthoughts.com/2007/09/the-rich-web-experience-day-1/#comment-12374</guid>
		<description>HI Alex,

Much of my experience with CSS is integrating many of the JavaScript libraries into jMaki and trying to get the theming of the respective libraries to work toghether.  The audience I had hoped was going to be more server-side developers that were trying to wear multiple hats and do some desgin work.

It might be a strong reaction to say jMaki does not support best practices because the charsets were set to 8859-1 and the layouts used classes instead of id in our templates. With the project intention has been to update our templates id selectors and have the corect charset for our 1.0 which we plan to ship later this month. I have gone and updated our templates with both and I do appreciate the feedback.

There are other aspects of jMaki from a design perspective I would be interested in getting feedback on. If you are interested let me know.  As for the other aspects of the talk I'm thiniing of  revising it to be a little more focused on theming.

-Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Alex,</p>
<p>Much of my experience with CSS is integrating many of the JavaScript libraries into jMaki and trying to get the theming of the respective libraries to work toghether.  The audience I had hoped was going to be more server-side developers that were trying to wear multiple hats and do some desgin work.</p>
<p>It might be a strong reaction to say jMaki does not support best practices because the charsets were set to 8859-1 and the layouts used classes instead of id in our templates. With the project intention has been to update our templates id selectors and have the corect charset for our 1.0 which we plan to ship later this month. I have gone and updated our templates with both and I do appreciate the feedback.</p>
<p>There are other aspects of jMaki from a design perspective I would be interested in getting feedback on. If you are interested let me know.  As for the other aspects of the talk I&#8217;m thiniing of  revising it to be a little more focused on theming.</p>
<p>-Greg</p>
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